Hi Ana I just wanted to say that your podcasts keep me sane at work overnights. Honest no-nonsense conversations is the best way to go. I hope you and your family are safe out there on the left coast
It will be more productive to reform the existing party than to try to start a new one. Just the sheer amount of money needed to get a new party in front of the public is daunting. The most successful candidate was Theodore Roosevelt, who came in 2nd, followed by Ross Perot, who, with all of his money, only got one-fifth of the popular vote.
You are probably right Edward, but I think that recent elections have shown that it isn’t just about $$. The Ds have FAR outspent the Rs in recent elections to no avail. If you can go on Joe Rogan for free and get 50 million people to watch…because your message resonates, that’s as effective as a billion dollars in advertising without a clear, effective, resonant message (even better I guess). A person with a message and little money has more of a chance now than ever before. Anyway, I’m afraid the R and D parties are beyond reform, so even if it is the more difficult path, a new movement may be the only option.
It's very very difficult to break inertia and get out of the ruts of the accustomed. However, there may be times when nothing less will do. Reforming the D party has been tried and has failed over and over again. I can't remember whether stupidity or insanity is the definition of trying to do the same thing that doesn't work over and over again.
Also, note that, like it or not, Trump has already turned a large part of the Republican Party into something quite else under the old name. As, in fact, the neoliberals did to the Democrats. It's become a pro-war, pro-wealth party with a veneer of extreme social justice failing to disguise it.
We need to be aware of David Hogg’s greater influence now that he’s a vice chair. Interesting that the legacy media said not a word about HIS nazi salute.
As a liberal, I have almost always voted for Democratic candidates, but recently, I have become disillusioned with the party and how it is run. Obama had a very effective grassroots organization, which was left to wither away after his presidency. Mr. Biden was too old school and too old physically to be the effective President we needed. Yes, he accomplished many good objectives but failed to provide the necessary leadership to defeat Trump. His constant talk about working across the aisle was seen as a weakness. It might have been a good thing in the past when both sides worked together, but in today's political environment, we need people who will call out the members of The cult of Trump for what they are and hold them up for the public to see what sycophants they are. Mr. Biden should have been using the media to explain how inflation came about and what he was doing to reduce it. Have any of the leaders of the DNC ever watched TV? You get the same message repeated time after time. Why is this? Because people have short attention spans and poor memories, they need constant re-enforcement about a product or a service. The Cult of Trump does this because his marketing people understand what the TV advertisers understand. Just one question before I shut up. Where is the Democratic answer to Trump's media platform 'Truth Social?" He blares out loud every day. The Democratic response - SILENCE.
I agree - as a staunch former dem (I’m no fan of Trump but I can assure you I’m no fan at all of the Democratic Party) I wonder what happened myself. After Clinton I started digging a bit and I basically stuck with voting and working locally. Which in itself was quite a challenge.
I just keep looking around for who the next younger version of Bernie is going to be, but for some reason democrats arent smart enough to pull that off. All someone would have to do is announce they agree with all of Bernie's policies and theyd instantly become the most popular candidate.
The Trump team's preparation work is paying off right now with the incredible pace they're implementing their strategy, and it's exposing the withered democrats as even more ossified and useless than I thought possible. I don't know what it's going to take to snap them out of their self-absorbed bubble of corruption.
It continues to - I don’t know the word - amaze, maybe? Anyway that continues as I hear EXACTLY THE SAME words from both “sides” with no consideration of the “other” side. I’m still not sure what to think much less how to figure a way to meet in the middle.
Hi Ana I just wanted to say that your podcasts keep me sane at work overnights. Honest no-nonsense conversations is the best way to go. I hope you and your family are safe out there on the left coast
Just more evidence that we need a new party and shouldn’t bother with these stiffs anymore.
It will be more productive to reform the existing party than to try to start a new one. Just the sheer amount of money needed to get a new party in front of the public is daunting. The most successful candidate was Theodore Roosevelt, who came in 2nd, followed by Ross Perot, who, with all of his money, only got one-fifth of the popular vote.
You are probably right Edward, but I think that recent elections have shown that it isn’t just about $$. The Ds have FAR outspent the Rs in recent elections to no avail. If you can go on Joe Rogan for free and get 50 million people to watch…because your message resonates, that’s as effective as a billion dollars in advertising without a clear, effective, resonant message (even better I guess). A person with a message and little money has more of a chance now than ever before. Anyway, I’m afraid the R and D parties are beyond reform, so even if it is the more difficult path, a new movement may be the only option.
It's very very difficult to break inertia and get out of the ruts of the accustomed. However, there may be times when nothing less will do. Reforming the D party has been tried and has failed over and over again. I can't remember whether stupidity or insanity is the definition of trying to do the same thing that doesn't work over and over again.
Also, note that, like it or not, Trump has already turned a large part of the Republican Party into something quite else under the old name. As, in fact, the neoliberals did to the Democrats. It's become a pro-war, pro-wealth party with a veneer of extreme social justice failing to disguise it.
Well said, Annie!
Great conversation. I will check out Lee Fang’s work.
MSNB’s coverage of the DNC election looked like an SNL skit. Honestly it did. The Democratic leadership have become a parody of themselves.
We need to be aware of David Hogg’s greater influence now that he’s a vice chair. Interesting that the legacy media said not a word about HIS nazi salute.
Great discussion. Especially interesting points towards the end regarding cooperation. Thank you.
As a liberal, I have almost always voted for Democratic candidates, but recently, I have become disillusioned with the party and how it is run. Obama had a very effective grassroots organization, which was left to wither away after his presidency. Mr. Biden was too old school and too old physically to be the effective President we needed. Yes, he accomplished many good objectives but failed to provide the necessary leadership to defeat Trump. His constant talk about working across the aisle was seen as a weakness. It might have been a good thing in the past when both sides worked together, but in today's political environment, we need people who will call out the members of The cult of Trump for what they are and hold them up for the public to see what sycophants they are. Mr. Biden should have been using the media to explain how inflation came about and what he was doing to reduce it. Have any of the leaders of the DNC ever watched TV? You get the same message repeated time after time. Why is this? Because people have short attention spans and poor memories, they need constant re-enforcement about a product or a service. The Cult of Trump does this because his marketing people understand what the TV advertisers understand. Just one question before I shut up. Where is the Democratic answer to Trump's media platform 'Truth Social?" He blares out loud every day. The Democratic response - SILENCE.
I agree - as a staunch former dem (I’m no fan of Trump but I can assure you I’m no fan at all of the Democratic Party) I wonder what happened myself. After Clinton I started digging a bit and I basically stuck with voting and working locally. Which in itself was quite a challenge.
They’re not capable of changing. They will always double down on the madness. Keep doing it.
I just keep looking around for who the next younger version of Bernie is going to be, but for some reason democrats arent smart enough to pull that off. All someone would have to do is announce they agree with all of Bernie's policies and theyd instantly become the most popular candidate.
Great. Nothing changes.
The Trump team's preparation work is paying off right now with the incredible pace they're implementing their strategy, and it's exposing the withered democrats as even more ossified and useless than I thought possible. I don't know what it's going to take to snap them out of their self-absorbed bubble of corruption.
Psy attention to what certain people focus on while trump and Musk is literally destroying this country.
What are you talking about specifically?
It continues to - I don’t know the word - amaze, maybe? Anyway that continues as I hear EXACTLY THE SAME words from both “sides” with no consideration of the “other” side. I’m still not sure what to think much less how to figure a way to meet in the middle.